Well #91.Petit-anse Church & School
Sponsored by: Pacific Western Brewing Company Haiti Completed: December 7, 2012 Depth of Water: 15ft. Well Depth: 80 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: MudPump BactiTest: negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Pacific Western Brewing Company Haiti Completed: December 7, 2012 Depth of Water: 15ft. Well Depth: 80 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: MudPump BactiTest: negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Cam & Gail Pearce Borno State, Nigeria Completed: November 30, 2011 Depth of Water: 17 ft. Well Depth: 50 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Surge Bailing Disinfection: 10 hours Taste: Good more information
Borno State, Nigeria Completed: November 30, 2011 Depth of Water: 17ft. Well Depth: 50 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Surge Bailing Disinfection: 8hours Taste: Good more information
Kenya Sponsored by: A. John Ellis Completed: November 28, 2011 Depth of Water: 63 ft 8 inches Well Depth: 81 inches Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Surge Bailing BactiTest: negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Francis Friese Yobe State, Sabon Gida District & Chiefdom, Nigeria Completed: October 22, 2011 Depth of Water: 19 ft. Well Depth: 64 ft. Screen Length: 15 ft. Developed by: Surge Bailing Disinfection: 8ft Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Joan McEwen & Irwin Nathanson Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: November 21, 2011 Depth of Water: 15 ft. Well Depth: 35 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Electric Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: A. John Ellis & The Water Team Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: September 28, 2011 Depth of Water: 7 ft. Well Depth: 35 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Electric Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Rubi Holdings Margibi County, Liberia Completed: October 9, 2011 Depth of Water: 6 ft. Well Depth: 40 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Electric Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: John Swadden & The Water Team Lower Margibi County, Liberia Completed: October 9, 2011 Depth of Water: 15 ft. Well Depth: 52 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Surge Bailing Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Both pumps sponsored by: Carson Graham Secondary School & The Water Team Balan, Haiti Completed: 2011 This pump repair project and new pump was appreciated. Here were comments sent to The Water Team: “Our community in this Godine area of Balan has about 350 people. Before this new pump was installed we were forced to take water [...]
Sponsored by: The Water Team Plain du Nord, Haiti Completed: 2011 This pump was installed at a centre with a school, church and clinic and a large membership. After the pump was installed the Water Team received this message, ” the old pump had been breaking frequently and running a school, church and clinic requires [...]
Sponsored by: Blue Planet Links Foundation and The Water Team Plain Du Nord, Haiti Completed: 2011 “It is with great excitement that I report a combined and heartfelt thank you from our community, school and church. We are very isolated and have struggled with safe drinking water the entire history of our village. This well [...]
Sponsored by: Shipman Companies and The Water Team North Cape Haitian Plain, Haiti Completed: 2011 Pump repair project; “Many thanks for coming to our rescue when our handpump was broken beyond repair. This new pump type is easier to use and we are very grateful for it. It has made our lives easier, as now we [...]
Sponsored by: Drs Jean & Alastair Carruthers Eastern Part of Yobe State, Nigeria Completed: Oct 09, 2011 Depth of Water: 7 ft. Well Depth: 50 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Electric Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Susan & Severin Hoch & The Water Team Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: April 15, 2011 Depth of Water: 7 ft. Well Depth: 48 ft. Screen Length: 15 ft. Developed by: Mud Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Carson Graham Secondary School Haiti Completed: May 5, 2011 Depth of Water: 36.6 ft. Well Depth: 90 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Electric Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Pacific Western Brewery and The Water Team Haiti Completed: June 4, 2011 Depth of Water: 5 ft. Well Depth: 68 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Mud Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Joan McEwen & Irwin Nathanson and The Water Team Haiti Completed: April 4, 2011 Depth of Water: 25 ft. Well Depth: 40 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Developed by: Electric Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Chad Completed: 2011 When we first sponsored Gerard Koumagbigue (age in 2011: 13 years old) through World Vision in October 2009, we asked him the questions we ask all our new foster children: Do you have a water well in your village? Where do you get your water? Do you ever get sick from dirty water? [...]
Chad Completed: 2011 When we first sponsored Laide Nakaling (age in 2011: 13 years old) through World Vision in September 2009, we asked him the questions we ask all our new foster children: 1. Do you have a water well in your village? 2. 2 where do you get your water? 3. Do you ever [...]
Sponsored by: The Liberian Community Organization of KS and MO and The Water Team Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: Aug. 8, 2010 Depth of Water: 8 ft. Well Depth: 50 ft. Screen Length: 12 ft. Developed by: Mud Pump Bacti Test: Negative Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Art McQuade Haiti Completed: Sept. 20 2010 Depth of Water: 5 feet Well Depth: 140 feet Development Time: 2 hours Taste: Good Water Odour: None Developed by: Mud Pump Hand Pump: Afridev Bacti Test: Negative more information
Sponsored by: Jean and Alastair Carruthers Haiti Completed: Sept. 29, 2010 Depth of Well: 45 feet Depth of Water: 80 feet Taste: Good Water Odour: Swampy Bacti Test: Negative more information
Sponsored by: The Water Team and Immaculate Conception School Haiti Completed: Oct. 5, 2010 Depth of Water: 125 feet Taste: Good Water Odour: None Developed by: Mud Pump Hand Pump: Afridev Bacti Test: Negative more information
Sponsored by: The Water Team and St. Joseph the Worker Parish Haiti Completed: June 1, 2010 Screen Length: 20 feet Taste: Good Developed by: Mud Pump Hand Pump: Afridev Bacti Test: Negative more information
Sponsored by: The Water Team and St. Joseph the Worker School Haiti Completed: Aug. 11, 2010 Depth of Water: 10 ft. Well Depth: 60 ft. Screen Length: 15 ft. Development Time: 2 hours Developed by: Mud Pump more information
Sponsored by: Joan McEwen and Irwin Nathanson Northern Cap Haitian Plan Completed: 2010 Each pump comes with its own set of tools which is left with the village. Time is spent with chosen representatives who are willing to learn how to do minor pump maintenance and repairs. more information
Sponsored by: The Water Team & Art McQuade, Vancouver, BC Southern part of Kaduna State, Nigeria Completed: May 6, 2010 Depth of Water: 15 ft. Well Depth: 65 ft. Screen Length: 13 ft. Development Time: 2 hours Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Other Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Blue Planet Links Foundation Vancouver, BC & Franz Environmental Mississauga, ON in Honor of Katie Hadley Cape Haitian, Haiti Completed: March 16, 2010 Portable drill rig with appropriate technology to train local Haitians to drill wells safely. It is simple to run, can be easily maintained locally. It can be dismantled easily to [...]
Sponsored by: The Water Team -Vancouver, BC and Stephen & Julia Dee – Richmond, BC Vaudreuil Area, Haiti Completed: March 18, 2010 Depth of Water: 42 ft. Well Depth: 88 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 4 hours Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: David Shipman Port-au-Prince, Haiti Completed: Jan. 30, 2010 Within one week after the earthquake struck, The Water Team’s Jim Gehrel landed in Haitie with emergency supplies of drinking water, medicine and food. He rented a bus and drove into Port-au-Prince. Read more about his experience here… more information
Sponsored by: Frances, Steven & Nathaniel Huang Plateau State, Nigeria Completed: Dec. 12, 2009 Depth of Water: 8 ft. Well Depth: 54 ft. Screen Length: 4 ft. Development Time: 2 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Other Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Francis, Steven & Nathaniel Huang (Water Team Youth Chapter Members) Margibi, Liberia Completed: March 15, 2010 Depth of Water: 37 ft. Well Depth: 60 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 2 hours Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: The Water Team Haiti Completed: Jan. 20, 2010 Depth of Water: 30 ft. Well Depth: 60 ft. Screen Length: 20 ft. Development Time: 4 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Ms. Kazuko Komatsu & Pacific Western Brewing Co. Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: Dec. 22, 2009 Depth of Water: 10 ft. Well Depth: 31 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 2 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Joan McEwen & Irwin Nathanson Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: Dec. 21, 2009 Depth of Water: 7 ft. Well Depth: 38 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 2 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: Andrea Morrison Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: Nov. 25, 2009 Depth of Water: 25 ft. Well Depth: 45 ft. Screen Length: 15 ft. Development Time: 2 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by: CISVA: St. Paul & St. Joseph the Worker Montserrado, Liberia Completed: July 10, 2009 Depth of Water: 13 ft. Well Depth: 40 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 2 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by CISVA: St. Catherine, St. James & St. Marys School Montserrado, Liberia Completed: June 24, 2009 Depth of Water: 25 ft. Well Depth: 5 ft. Screen Length: 14 ft. Development Time: 2 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Villager participates in hygene workshop after well completed. more information
Sponsored by CISVA: St. Edmunds & St. Pius X Elementary Schools Montserrado, Liberia Completed: Sept. 01, 2009 In order to improve the safety of drinking water in this community, a special community health through hygiene workshop was held. Village leaders and parents were taught what disease is, how it is transmitted and how to break [...]
Sponsored by St. Anthony of Padau and St. Francis of Assisi Montserrado, Liberia Completed: July 01, 2009 This Pump Repair Project brought a brand New Hand Pump to a village along with a Health and Hygiene Workshop about to discuss the best way to use the clean water that comes from the new pump. more [...]
Sponsored by CISVA: St. Mary, Perpetual Help, Lady of Sorrow Plateau State, Amper West District, Amper Chiefton, Nigeria Completed: Aug. 03, 2009 Depth of Water: 12 ft. Well Depth: 59 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 5 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: India Mark II Water Odour: None more information
Sponsored by CISVA: Star of the Sea/St. Bernadette and Our Lady of Good Counsel Montserrado, Liberia Completed: June 28, 2009 Depth of Water: 7 ft. Well Depth: 45 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 2 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None more information
Sponsored by CISVA: St.Andrew’s, St. Joseph’s and Corpus Christ Abia State, Nigeria Completed: May 19, 2009 Depth of Water: 8 ft. Well Depth: 60 ft. Screen Length: 6 ft. Development Time: 4 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: India Mark II Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by CISVA: Blessed Sacrament School Nasarawa State, Nigeria Completed: Feb 15, 2009 Depth of Water: 15 ft. Well Depth: 58 ft. Screen Length: 14 ft. Development Time: 8 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: India Mark II Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by Talmud Torah School and and The Water Team Youth Chapter Montserrado, Monrovia District, Liberia Completed: April 27, 2009 Depth of Water: 8 ft. Well Depth: 8 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 48 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by West Point Grey Academy and and The Water Team Youth Chapter Montserrado, Liberia Project Completed: April 16, 2009 Depth of Water: 15 ft. Well Depth: 15 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Taste: Good Bacti Test: negative more information
Sponsored by Stephen and Julian Dee and the Water Team Youth Chapter Montserrado, Liberia Completed: April 13, 2009 Depth of Water: 6 ft. Well Depth: 29 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Taste: Good Bacti Test: negative more information
Sponsored by the Water Team and St. Helen’s, St. Michael’s, Holy Cross Monrovia Clan, Montserrado, Liberia Completed: April 01, 2009 Depth of Water: 40 ft. Well Depth: 15 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Taste: Good Bacti Test: negative more information
Sponsored by St. Patrick Regional Secondary School and The Water Team Youth Chapter Nigeria Completed: Feb. 06, 2008 Well Depth: 62 ft. Depth of Water: 18 ft. Water Colour: Clear Developed by: Surge Bailing Turbidity: Clear Handpump: India Mark II Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by St. John Brebeuf Regional Secondary School and The Water Team Youth Chapter Nasarawa, Nigeria Completed: Feb. 27, 2009 Depth of Water: 120 ft. Well Depth: 61 ft. Screen Length: 16 ft. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: India Mark II Taste: Good Bacti Test: negative more information
Sponsored by Christopher McLachlen in memory of Grandma Ovans Kogi State, Nigeria Completed: April 06, 2008 Depth of Water: 26 ft. Well Depth: 60 ft. Screen Length: 20 ft. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: India Mark II Taste: Good Bacti Test: negative more information
Kenya Completed: July 18, 2008 Depth of Water: 104 ft. Well Deptth: 246 ft. Screen Length: 66 ft. Water Colour: Clear Well Yield: 3 gpm Bacti Test: Negative more information
Nasarawa State, Nigeria Completed: June 23, 2008 Depth of Water: 17 ft. Screen Length: 15 ft. Development Time: 24 hrs. Disinfection: 38 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Well Depth: 62 ft. Handpump: India Mark II more information
Nasarawa State, Nigeria Completed: Nov. 6, 2008 Depth of Water: 13 ft. Screen Length: 12 ft. Development Time: 6 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Well Depth: 57 ft. Developed By: Air Backwash Well Yield: 2.5 gpm Handpump: India Mark II more information
Sponsored by The Water Team Children’s Chapter Nasarawa State, Nigeria Completed: Nov. 06, 2008 Depth of Water: 13 ft. Screen Length: 12 ft. Development Time: 6 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Well Depth: 57 ft. Developed By: Air Backwash Well Yield: 2.5 gpm Handpump: India Mark II more information
Sponsored by Reid Brothers Plumbing and Heating Ltd Nasarawa State, Nigeria Completed: Nov. 6, 2008 Depth of Water: 13 ft. Screen Length: 12 ft. Development Time: 6 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Well Depth: 57 ft. Developed By: Air Backwash Well Yield: 2.5 gpm Handpump: India Mark II more information
Nigeria Completed: Feb. 23, 2008 Well Depth: 59 ft. Depth of Water: 13 ft. Water Colour: Clear Developed by: Surge Bailing Turbidity: Clear Handpump: India Mark IV Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information 32. Emmanuel Ahemba Benue State, Nigeria Completed: Feb. 23, 2008 Well Depth: 54 ft. Depth of Water: – ft. Water [...]
Bassa LGA, Kogi State, Nigeria Project Completed: Jan. 14, 2008 Depth of Water: 40 ft. Water Colour: Clear Turbidity: Clear Nitrate: – mg/L Handpump: India Mark IV Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Benue state, Nigeria Completed: Dec. 07, 2007 Depth of Water: 28 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Development Time: 3 hrs. Disinfection: 24 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Turbidity: Clear Handpump: Other Taste: Good more information
Montserrado, Liberia Completed: Nov. 13, 2007 Depth of Water: 20 ft. Development Time: 8 hrs. Disinfection: 72 hrs. Water Colour: Clear. Developed By: Mud pump Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Margibi County, Liberia Completed: Sept. 10, 2007 Depth of Water: – ft. Screen Length: – ft. Development Time: – hrs. more information
Nyanza Province, Kenya Completed: Aug. 06, 2007 Depth of Water: 55 ft. Development Time: 36 hrs. Disinfection: 72 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Surge Bailing Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Kogi State, Nigeria Completed: Sept. 05, 2007 Depth of Water: 15 ft. Screen Length: 20 ft. Well Depth: 30 ft. Disinfection: 24 hrs. Developed By: Surge Bailing Water Colour: Clear Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Lower Margibi County, Liberia Completed: Feb. 15, 2007 Depth of Water: 12 ft. Development Time:6 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Lower Grand Bassa County, Liberia Completed: Nov. 14, 2006 Depth of Water: 18 ft. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Surge Bailing Well Yield: 13 gpm Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Grand Bassa County, Liberia Completed: Sept. 15, 2006 Depth of Water: 10 ft. Water Colour: Clear Turbidity: Clear Developed By: Surge Bailing Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by The Pacific Western Brewing Company Grand Bassa County, Liberia Completed: Sept. 14, 2006 Depth of Water: 8 ft. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Surge Bailing Well Yield: 20 gpm Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Warji County, Nigeria Completed: Sept. 22, 2006 Depth of Water: 26 ft. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Air Backwash Well Yield: 3 gpm Handpump: India Mark IV Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: May 17, 2006 Depth of Water: 15 ft. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Mud pump Well Yield: 3 gpm Handpump: Bush Pump Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: Sept. 30, 2005 Depth of Water: 9ft. Water Colour: Clear Turbidity: Clear Well Yield: 2.5 gpm Handpump: Bush Pump (Zimbabwe) Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: May 9, 2006 Depth of Water: 1 ft. Screen Length: 10 ft. Disinfection: 72 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Handpump: Bush Pump (Dweh) Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by The Pacific Western Brewing Company Nimba Country, Liberia Completed: Nov. 19, 2006 Depth of Water: 28 ft. Development Time: 7 hrs. Disinfection: 26 hrs. Developed By: Mud pump Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Sponsored by Andrea Morrison Nimba County, Liberia Completed: Nov. 15, 2006 Depth of Water: 13 ft. Development Time: 6 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Surge Bailing Well Yield: 5.6 gpm Handpump: Afridev Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Montserrado County, Liberia Completed: March 21, 2005 Depth of Water: 20 ft. Disinfection: 24 hrs. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Mud Pump Well Yield: 30 gpm Handpump: Other Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information
Lower Maragibi County, Liberia Completed: Feb. 20, 2005 Depth of Water: 10 ft. Water Colour: Yellowish Turbidity: Cloudy Developed By: Mud Pump Well Yield: 25 gpm Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information…
Maragibi County, Liberia Completed: Sept. 19, 2003 Depth of Water: 20 ft. Water Colour: Clear Developed By: Mud Pump Well Yield: – gpm Handpump: Bush Pump (Taylor) Water Odour: None Taste: Good more information…
Nicaragua Completed: 2002 The Water Team again ran in World Vision’s Fun Run in Vancouver B.C. and we raised enough money to build a water well in Nicaragua. In 2002 we built a water well at a school in Nicaragua through World Vision. In 2003 we started to sponsor a child in that village – [...]
Mozambique Completed: 2001 We put together a “team” of 29 people who ran and walked in the World Vision Fun Run in Vancouver, B.C. The team raised enough money to build a water well in Mozambique. We sponsored a child in the village – Filipe Mondlate.
Guatemala Completed: 2000 We partnered with World Vision to help build a water system for the communities of Los Vados and La Calera. Sponsored Yolanda Garcia Perez in order to follow the improvements in the village.
Northern Kenya Completed: 2000 Sponsored the building of a concrete water holding tank for the family of our foster child Fabian Lengusuranga.
Malawi Completed: 2000 We partnered with World Vision to build a water well in the Mdunga/Kasiya area. We sponsored a child in the same village, Patricia Sikelo, so we could follow-up on the progress of the village and the maintenance of the well. Although she was only 5 years old, Patricia was able to report [...]
Guatemala Completed: 1999 Partnered with World Vision to help build a water pipeline project to bring clean water to the villagers in Quebrada Seca. Before the clean water came our foster child, Arceli Diaz Diaz, suffered from parasites. After the pipes brought the clean water to the village, she recovered.
Malawi Completed: 1997 1998 – Partnered with World Vision to build a water well for our foster child Mackson Mwase in Malawi. We learned that 60% of the population in his area (Mdunga/Kasiya – about 164 km from the capital, Silongwe ) were drinking water from unsafe sources and getting sick from bacteria and Parasites. [...]
Mdunga/Kasiya, Malawi Completed: 1992 Partnered with World Vision to install a water well in the village of our foster child Chikondi Mbaluku in Mdunga/Kasiya ADP. Chikond’s village is 164 kms away from the capital city of Lilongwe. . A study showed that before the well was built , only 7% of the population had safe [...]
Kenya Completed: 1996 Partnered with Save the Children to fund 10 Water Jars in Thakara, Kenya
Northern Uganda Completed: 1996 Partnered with Water Can to build a water well in the village of Abwor in Northern Uganda. 264 villagers benefited from this clean water source. The villagers provided the labour, bricks and sand. A Water source Maintenance Committee was set up to “ensure that the water source is kept functional and [...]
Northern Uganda Completed: 1996 Partnered with Water Can to build a water well in the village of Olepo in Northern Uganda. 285 villagers benefited from this clean water source. The villagers provided the labour, bricks and sand. A Water source Maintenance Committee was set up to “ensure that the water source is kept functional and [...]
Zimbabwe Completed: 1992 In 1988 we were sponsoring a child in Zimbabwe through World Vision. She was 9 years old and her name was Shamiso Madzanika. We wrote back and forth and learned about her family and her life. In March of 1992, we received a letter from Shamiso, telling us that they had [...]